1 Kings 12:8
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New International Version (©1984)
But Rehoboam rejected the advice the elders gave him and consulted the young men who had grown up with him and were serving him.

New Living Translation (©2007)
But Rehoboam rejected the advice of the older men and instead asked the opinion of the young men who had grown up with him and were now his advisers.

English Standard Version (©2001)
But he abandoned the counsel that the old men gave him and took counsel with the young men who had grown up with him and stood before him.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
But he forsook the counsel of the elders which they had given him, and consulted with the young men who grew up with him and served him.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But he forsook the counsel of the old men, which they had given him, and consulted with the young men that were grown up with him, and which stood before him:

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
But he ignored the advice the older leaders gave him. He sought advice from the young men who had grown up with him and were serving him.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But he forsook the counsel of the old men, which they had given him, and consulted with the young men that were grown up with him, and who stood before him:

American King James Version
But he forsook the counsel of the old men, which they had given him, and consulted with the young men that were grown up with him, and which stood before him:

American Standard Version
But he forsook the counsel of the old men which they had given him, and took counsel with the young men that were grown up with him, that stood before him.

Douay-Rheims Bible
But he left the counsel of the old men, which they had given him, and consulted with the young men, that had been brought up with him, and stood before him.

Darby Bible Translation
But he forsook the advice of the old men which they had given him, and consulted with the young men, who had grown up with him, that stood before him.

English Revised Version
But he forsook the counsel of the old men which they had given him, and took counsel with the young men that were grown up with him, that stood before him.

Webster's Bible Translation
But he forsook the counsel of the old men, which they had given him, and consulted with the young men that had grown up with him, and who stood before him:

World English Bible
But he forsook the counsel of the old men which they had given him, and took counsel with the young men who had grown up with him, who stood before him.

Young's Literal Translation
And he forsaketh the counsel of the elders which they counselled him, and consulteth with the lads who have grown up with him, who are standing before him;

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

The age of Rehoboam at his accession is an interesting and difficult question. According to the formal statement of the present text of 1 Kings 14:21; 2 Chronicles 12:13, he had reached the mature age of 41 years, and would therefore be unable to plead youth as an excuse for his conduct. The general narrative, however, seems to assume that he was quite a young man (compare 2 Chronicles 13:7). Perhaps the best way of removing the whole difficulty would be to read in the above text "twenty-one" for "forty-one." The corruption is one which might easily take place, if letters were used for numerals.


Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

But he forsook the counsel of the old men, which they had given him,.... He did not rightly relish it, nor cordially receive it; it did not suit with his haughty temper, he could not brook it, to stoop to his people; he thought it a lessening of his dignity to do anything that looked like courting their favour; and therefore determined not to take the advice given him by the old men, but to seek for other:

and consulted with the men, that were grown up with him, and which stood before him; the sons of nobles, with whom he had his education, and who were his companions from his youth upwards, and who were now officers in his court, and of his privy council, being his favourites, and those he consulted on this occasion; and though they are called young men, as they were in comparison of the old men, yet since they were contemporary with Rehoboam, who was now forty one years of age, they must be about forty, or not much under, and at an age to be wiser than they appeared to be.


Keil and Delitzsch Biblical Commentary on the Old Testament

But Rehoboam forsook this advice, and asked the younger ministers who had grown up with him. They advised him to overawe the people by harsh threats. "My little finger is stronger than my father's loins." קטי, from קטן, littleness, i.e., the little finger (for the form, see Ewald, 255, b.), - a figurative expression in the sense of, I possess much greater might than my father. "And now, my father laid a heavy yoke upon you, and I will still further add to your yoke (lay still more upon you): my father chastised you with whips, I will chastise you with scorpions." עקרבּים, scorpiones, are whips with barbed points like the point of a scorpion's sting.

(Note: The Rabbins give this explanation: virgae spinis instructae. Isidor. HisPal. Origg. v. c. 27, explains it in a similar manner: virga si est nodosa vel aculeata, scorpio vocatur. The Targ. and Syr., on the other hand, מרגגין, Syr. mārganā', i.e., the Greek μάραγνα, a whip. See the various explanations in Bochart, Hieroz. iii. p. 554f. ed. Ros.)

This advice was not only imprudent, "considering all the circumstances" (Seb. Schmidt), but it was unwise in itself, and could only accelerate the secession of the discontented. It was the language of a tyrant, and not of a ruler whom God had placed over His people. This is shown in 1 Kings 12:13, 1 Kings 12:14 : "The king answered the people harshly, and forsook the counsel of the old men," i.e., the counsellors who were rich in experience, and spoke according to the counsels of the young men, who flattered his ambition. It is very doubtful, indeed, whether the advice of the old men would have been followed by so favourable a result; it might probably have been so for the moment, but not for a permanency. For the king could not become the עגלים of the people, serve the people, without prejudicing the authority entrusted to him by God; though there is no doubt that if he had consented to such condescension, he would have deprived the discontented tribes of all pretext for rebellion, and not have shared in the sin of their secession.


Geneva Study Bible

But he forsook the counsel of the old men, which they had given him, and consulted with the young men that were grown up with him, and which stood before him:


Wesley's Notes

12:8 Young men - So called, comparatively to the old men: otherwise they were near forty years old.


Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

12:1-15 The tribes complained not to Rehoboam of his father's idolatry, and revolt from God. That which was the greatest grievance, was none to them; so careless were they in matters of religion, if they might live at case, and pay no taxes. Factious spirits will never want something to complain of. And when we see the Scripture account of Solomon's reign; the peace, wealth, and prosperity Israel then enjoyed; we cannot doubt but that their charges were false, or far beyond the truth. Rehoboam answered the people according to the counsel of the young men. Never was man more blinded by pride, and desire of arbitrary power, than which nothing is more fatal. God's counsels were hereby fulfilled. He left Rehoboam to his own folly, and hid from his eyes the things which belonged to his peace, that the kingdom might be rent from him. God serves his own wise and righteous purposes by the imprudences and sins of men. Those that lose the kingdom of heaven, throw it away, as Rehoboam, by wilfulness and folly.


1 Kings 12:7 They replied, "If today you will be a servant to these people and serve them and give them a favorable answer, they will always be your servants."
1 Kings 12:9 He asked them, "What is your advice? How should we answer these people who say to me, 'Lighten the yoke your father put on us'?"

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But he forsook the counsel of the old men, which they had given him, and consulted with the young men that were grown up with him, and which stood before him:

2Ch 10:8 25:15,16 Pr 1:2-5,25,30 19:20 25:12 Ec 10:2,3

1 Kings Chapter 12 Verse 8

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