2 Samuel 8:16
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New International Version (©1984)
Joab son of Zeruiah was over the army; Jehoshaphat son of Ahilud was recorder;

New Living Translation (©2007)
Joab son of Zeruiah was commander of the army. Jehoshaphat son of Ahilud was the royal historian.

English Standard Version (©2001)
Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the army, and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder,

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the army, and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the host; and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder;

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Zeruiah's son Joab was in charge of the army. Ahilud's son Jehoshaphat was the royal historian.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the army; and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder;

American King James Version
And Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the host; and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder;

American Standard Version
And Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the host; and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder;

Douay-Rheims Bible
And Joab the son of Sarvia was over the army: and Josaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder:

Darby Bible Translation
And Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the host; and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was chronicler;

English Revised Version
And Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the host; and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder:

Webster's Bible Translation
And Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the host; and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder;

World English Bible
Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the army; and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder;

Young's Literal Translation
and Joab son of Zeruiah is over the host, and Jehoshaphat son of Ahilud is remembrancer,

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

For a similar account of the officers of Solomon's kingdom, see 1 Kings 4:1-6, where Jehoshaphat is still the recorder, and Benaiah is advanced to be captain of the host in the room of Joab. The recorder seems to have been a high officer of state, a kind of chancellor, whose office was to keep a record of the events of the kingdom for the king's information, and hence, he would naturally be the king's adviser. See Esther 6:1-2; Isaiah 36:22; 2 Chronicles 34:8. Such an officer is found among the ancient Egyptians and Persians.

Ahimelech the son of Abiathar - According to 1 Samuel 22:9-23, Abiathar, Zadok's colleague, was the son of Ahimelech. Abiathar the son of Ahimelech continued to be priest through the reign of David. (Compare also 1 Kings 1:7, 1 Kings 1:42; 1 Kings 2:22-27.) It almost necessarily follows that there is some error in the text.

The scribe - Or secretary of state 2 Kings 12:10; 2 Kings 18:37, different from the military scribe (Judges 5:14 note).


Clarke's Commentary on the Bible

Joab - was over the host - General and commander-in-chief over all the army.

Ahilud - recorder - מזכיר mazkir, remembrancer; one who kept a strict journal of all the proceedings of the king and operations of his army; a chronicler. Or, remembrancer, or, writer of chronicles.


Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

And Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the host,.... Which was not only owing to his relation to David, being his sister's son, but to his promise that whoever smote the Jebusites first should be chief and captain; that is, should have the command of the army under him; this Joab did; and so was entitled to this office, and was put into it, and continued in it, 1 Chronicles 11:6,

and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder; of memorable events, who kept a diary of whatsoever remarkable happened, which were digested into a chronicle, history, or annals; see Esther 6:1; so the Targum, he"was appointed over the memorials;''or book of memorials, as Kimchi interprets it; that is, to take care of it, and see that everything worthy of notice was inserted in it; or was "remembrancer" (g); one that put the king in mind what was to be done every day, or in certain cases, and so R. Isaiah explains it, the king's counsellor; some take him to be chancellor, as Luther and others (h).

(g) "commemorans", Montanus; "commemorator", Syr. Ar. "memorans, sive reducens in memoriam", Vatablus. (h) Vid. Beckium in Targ. 1 Chronicles 18.15.


Keil and Delitzsch Biblical Commentary on the Old Testament

The chief ministers were the following: - Joab (see at 2 Samuel 2:18) was "over the army," i.e., commander-in-chief. Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud, of whom nothing further is known, was mazcir, chancellor; not merely the national annalist, according to the Septuagint and Vulgate (ἐπὶ τῶν ὑπομνημάτην, ὑπομνηματόγραφος; a commentariis), i.e., the recorder of the most important incidents and affairs of the nation, but an officer resembling the magister memoriae of the later Romans, or the waka nuvis of the Persian court, who keeps a record of everything that takes place around the king, furnishes him with an account of all that occurs in the kingdom, places his vis upon all the king's commands, and keeps a special protocol of all these things (vid., Chardin, Voyages v. p. 258, and Paulsen, Regierung der Morgenlnder, pp. 279-80).


Geneva Study Bible

And Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the host; and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder;


Wesley's Notes

8:16 Recorder - The treasurer, who examined all the accounts, and kept records of them.


King James Translators' Notes

recorder: or, remembrancer, or, writer of chronicles


Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

16. Joab . was over the host-by virtue of a special promise (2Sa 5:8).

recorder-historiographer or daily annalist, an office of great trust and importance in Eastern countries.


Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

8:15-18 David neither did wrong, nor denied or delayed right to any. This speaks his close application to business; also his readiness to admit all addresses and appeals made to him. He had no respect of persons in judgment. Herein he was a type of Christ. To Him let us submit, his friendship let us seek, his service let us count our pleasure, diligently attending to the work he assigns to each of us. David made his sons chief rulers; but all believers, Christ's spiritual seed, are better preferred, for they are made kings and priests to our God, Re 1:6.


2 Samuel 2:13 Joab son of Zeruiah and David's men went out and met them at the pool of Gibeon. One group sat down on one side of the pool and one group on the other side.
2 Samuel 8:15 David reigned over all Israel, doing what was just and right for all his people.
2 Samuel 19:13 And say to Amasa, 'Are you not my own flesh and blood? May God deal with me, be it ever so severely, if from now on you are not the commander of my army in place of Joab.'"
2 Samuel 20:23 Joab was over Israel's entire army; Benaiah son of Jehoiada was over the Kerethites and Pelethites;
1 Kings 4:3 Elihoreph and Ahijah, sons of Shisha--secretaries; Jehoshaphat son of Ahilud--recorder;
2 Kings 18:18 They called for the king; and Eliakim son of Hilkiah the palace administrator, Shebna the secretary, and Joah son of Asaph the recorder went out to them.
2 Kings 18:37 Then Eliakim son of Hilkiah the palace administrator, Shebna the secretary and Joah son of Asaph the recorder went to Hezekiah, with their clothes torn, and told him what the field commander had said.
1 Chronicles 11:6 David had said, "Whoever leads the attack on the Jebusites will become commander-in-chief." Joab son of Zeruiah went up first, and so he received the command.

Ahilud Ahi'lud Army Chief Chronicler Host Jehoshaphat Jehosh'aphat Joab Jo'ab Keeper Recorder Records Remembrancer Zeruiah Zeru'iah


And Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the host; and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder;

Joab 2Sa 19:13 20:23 1Ch 11:6 18:15-17

Jehoshaphat 1Ki 4:3

recorder. or, remembrancer, or writer of chronicles.

2 Samuel Chapter 8 Verse 16

Alphabetical: Ahilud and army Jehoshaphat Joab of over recorder son the was Zeruiah

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